Rebirth Through Community: Tori Gordon on True Success & Transformation

Tori Gordon is the founder and CEO of Revive Las Vegas, a holistic healing center offering virtual education and transformative in-person experiences through heart-centered leadership and community building. 

A Trauma-Informed Breathwork Facilitator, Ceremonialist, and Self-Mastery Coach, Tori works with individuals and organizations to catalyze massive transformation, guiding them to heal core wounds and transcend trauma through methods like subconscious reprogramming, nervous system regulation, and sacred plant medicine integration.

In addition to leading Revive, Tori hosts The Coachable Podcast, a top-ranked podcast in the education space, and was named one of TikTok’s Top 100 Female Creators in 2022. With her engaging and heartfelt content reaching over a million people worldwide, she collaborates with brands like NatureMade, BetterHelp, and Athletic Greens, and has been featured on major media outlets like NBC, Fox News, CBS, and Business Insider.

In this episode of Pursue Vegas, Tori shares her journey from personal loss to empowerment, describing the resilience and self-trust that have defined her path. “Life asks me, how much do you trust me?” she reflects, emphasizing the need to face discomfort to achieve true healing. Her insights challenge common views on wellness, reminding us that “healing is not bubble baths and self-care; it’s revisiting the most painful experiences with love.”

Join us as we explore Tori’s approach to holistic healing, self-acceptance, and the power of community, offering listeners a roadmap to finding peace, redefining success, and building a life that truly “feels as good as it looks.”

Key Takeaways

• Trust the Journey: Transformation requires stepping into the unknown and trusting oneself and the process.
• Community’s Role in Healing: Revive Las Vegas exemplifies the strength and support a connected community can offer.
• Authentic Healing: True healing involves facing painful experiences with compassion and self-love.
• Redefining Success: Fulfillment lies in authenticity, deep connections, and self-acceptance over material gains.
• Acceptance Over Resistance: Finding peace often comes from releasing resistance and fostering self-acceptance.

Resources

• Tori Gordon’s Instagram: @thetorigordon
• Revive Las Vegas: @revivelasvegas
• Books Mentioned:
  • The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho
  • A Return to Love by Marianne Williamson

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Transcript

0:00:00 - (Tori Gordon): Hi, my name is Tori Gordon with Revive Las Vegas, and this is Pursue Vegas.

0:00:06 - (Dave Burlin): All right, welcome back to the Pursue Vegas podcast. I'm your host, Dave Burlin.

0:00:10 - (Tawni Nguyen): And I'm your co host, Tawni Nguyen.

0:00:12 - (Dave Burlin): And I am absolutely excited about today's guest, probably more so than any guest we've had so far. Tori has become one of my favorite people in the world. And Tori Gordon is the founder and CEO of Revive Las Vegas, a center for holistic healing offering both virtual education in person and in person transformation or transformative experiences.

0:00:34 - (Tawni Nguyen): That's a mouthful.

0:00:35 - (Dave Burlin): That's a lot. And I even had the chat GPT, like, trim it down a little bit.

0:00:39 - (Tawni Nguyen): Syllables.

0:00:41 - (Dave Burlin): But she's also the host of the Coachable podcast, one of the top ranked podcasts, and she was even named TikTok's top 100 female creators in 2022. So that's just scratching the surface. There is more depth to this woman than probably most of the people I've met since I've been in Las Vegas. Tori, welcome to the Pursue Vegas podcast.

0:01:04 - (Tori Gordon): Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here and spend some time with you guys. Thanks for asking me on.

0:01:10 - (Dave Burlin): You got it. You got it. What are you excited about? Because you have been working on some really incredible stuff. I met you when you at the podcast studio, and I've been blown away by some of the incredible people. Not only that you've had on the show, the depth of conversation that you've went into, and then I've seen you extend that out into our whole community here in what you've built with Wolfpack and Revive.

0:01:38 - (Dave Burlin): Gosh, Tell me, tell me everything.

0:01:41 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah, it's crazy to think, you know, you and I met almost like two years ago, and that was right around the time I was moving to Vegas. And it's interesting, one of our mutual friends and mentors, Dave Meltzer, I saw, was filming over at Blue Wire Studios at the Wynn. And I was new to Vegas at the time and was looking for a place to host my show. I was tired of filming out of my. Out of my kitchen and out of my. Wherever I was because I had been traveling cross country at the time. And that's where, you know, I saw that he was filming there and I hit him up.

0:02:22 - (Tori Gordon): I was like, dave, where's this amazing studio you're at? Like, can. Can I come by and see it? And I did. And that was the first thing. This, like, magical moment that, like, opened me up to Vegas itself in terms of what the possibilities are here and how much if you get connected to the right people, like, your life can transform. And that day I saw that studio, I was like, I want to film my show here.

0:02:49 - (Tori Gordon): This is something. And when I get really clear about what I want, I have this ability to be able to create it and make it happen, but I have to get clear about what I want. And that was one of the first things. And within a couple months, I'd signed a deal there. And then you and I got connected. And what I love about Vegas, first and foremost, is just the way it opened itself up to me. My friend Brandon Collinsworth calls it the Neon Dojo. He's like, you can find anything here, you know, and it will.

0:03:19 - (Tori Gordon): Vegas will bring out the truth, like, the truth of who you are. It will show you who you are because you have unlimited options for what you want to. What you can get involved in. And, you know, it will show you the underlying things that you. You know, that it will be a mirror to you. So, yeah, I've been here for a couple years now, and one of the things that I deeply wanted when I moved out here was a community.

0:03:50 - (Tori Gordon): And what I mean by that is, like, people who I could gather with intentionally outside of a party scene that actually, I'm not sure if I can cuss on the show, gave a damn about me and, like, knew my name. That I could walk into a room and give someone a genuine hug and. And know what's going on in their life, where I could, like, walk into someone's home and feel like I'm not a stranger, that I, you know, yeah, I belong here.

0:04:19 - (Tori Gordon): And that was something I had longed for for a really, really long time. And so, of all places, you know, somehow I ended up here. And this has been the birthplace of the best community I've ever been a part of. And you're part of that, Dave. And I'm sitting here now because of the friendship and the relationship that we've built. But I think it just goes to show, and I'm happy to speak more to what that community is and how it got formed, but it goes to show that you really can find whatever you're looking for here in the city.

0:04:52 - (Tawni Nguyen): No, I love that you brought up that you haven't been here for that long, because that's how I met you. It's not that long ago, but your story, as brief as it was, just in the two years on how much, like, work that you've done with yourself. And I know that to lean into such transformational work, it has to Come from a place. And out of all places, I think a lot of us chose Vegas, ironically, as a place of rebirth rather than just a place to come live. And, you know, when we begin to talk about, like, we're getting rooted here, but first, like, to be rebirthed and to get rooted somewhere, you really have to lift. And I love that you brought up, like, it really shows you who you are because there's all these temptations, there's all these desires and false illusions of what lifestyle looks like here, or just the choices that you can make or, you know, the wrong turns you can take.

0:05:39 - (Tori Gordon): Right.

0:05:39 - (Tawni Nguyen): And all the false narratives and perceptions that people have of the city and of the people of the city. And then we choose to lean into something a little bit more leans on the business, entrepreneurship, holistic side of things. And it's surprising to a lot of people.

0:05:51 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah.

0:05:52 - (Tawni Nguyen): So I'm just kind of wondering, like, even before you got here, you were soul searching on a road trip and how did you decided to land here for your rebirth? And what was that like, kind of darkness that, you know, like, what was that moment like for you so that you can like spark this, this change in yourself?

0:06:08 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah, I love the question because this is the kind of stuff that I love to talk about because it's the reality of how, you know, what I do now wasn't birthed overnight. It comes from, you know, being in crisis, which we can all relate to it in some way or shape or form. For me, I was living in Atlanta for about seven years prior. I had lived in several different major cities, Dallas and San Diego, Atlanta.

0:06:34 - (Tori Gordon): And I went through a separation. And I had felt like that separation was the catalyst for me to. During that relationship is when I had a spiritual awakening. I had lost my mom in 2018, and that was on the heels of losing my sister and actually most of my other immediate family and living through a natural disaster that devastated our home and our community where I'm from. And that was the waking up, the beginning of my awakening journey of realizing what matters to me, what's important. I have to do a full reprioritization of my life because at the time I was really throwing myself into what I thought was success, what I thought I wanted, which was a certain lifestyle, certain accolades. I had a beautiful home, I was making a lot of money. I was dating the major league baseball player. And on my, on the outside, my life looked really good.

0:07:39 - (Tori Gordon): But there was a moment where my. I walked outside one day and felt the sun hit my face. After two weeks of Being indoors, depressed, I was like, oh, wait, something's wrong. I. I'm not okay, but my life looks great. And I started to come up with this motto was like, I want to build a life that feels as good as it looks, because I know a lot of people, and I've been that person who had the life that looked amazing and that could convince everybody that I was on top of the world.

0:08:13 - (Tori Gordon): But I was so disconnected for myself. And so to take you through that process, it was like I had this coming to Jesus come, like, essentially coming to myself, coming home to what matters to me moment. And I decided to leave a relationship. And I feel like, for me, one of the major lessons life has asked me to learn over and over, and it asked me. Then when I got in the car and decided to leave Atlanta and start traveling solo was the question life asks me is, how much do you trust me?

0:08:46 - (Tori Gordon): How much do you trust me? Because I was on the. Literally sitting in my car outside of Chipotle in Atlanta, Georgia, about to get on the road with no destination in my. Like, I was just following my intuition. I was like, I'm not. This is an experiment. I don't have a plan. I don't know where I'm gonna go or for how long I'm gonna go. I'm just gonna go where I feel led to go. And then when I. I'm gonna go somewhere else.

0:09:11 - (Tori Gordon): And I was sitting in front of that Chipotle, and life was like, do you trust me? And what that was also asking me was like, do I trust myself? And so I feel like the healing journey, the transformative journey that I've been on over the last six years has been a journey of learning to trust myself really deeply that I. There is something within me that is guiding me that to somewhere I have, I only, you know, can hope and long for within my heart, But I don't know how that's going to unfold.

0:09:44 - (Tori Gordon): And so it's me continuing to say yes to stepping into uncertainty. And that's what I did. And I traveled to Sedona. I traveled to the Grand Canyon. I was in Flagstaff. And I remember being on a mountain in Sedona, and I'd taken some mushrooms and was, like, soul searching and, like, was at the top of this beautiful peak, looking over this incredible view, and I had this moment, you know, as mushrooms kind of. If you've ever done them, they have a way of teaching you and revealing to you kind of what's true for you at the moment. And I had this grief come over me, and I was just grieving the life I thought I was going to live.

0:10:23 - (Tori Gordon): I was grieving the life that I. I was like, my. My family's dead. I'm leaving a relationship. I'm starting over at 30. I don't know where I'm going to go. I never thought this would be my life. Right. And yet here I am. And I had this moment of, like, acceptance of, like, this is the reality, and I'm going to accept what is, and I'm going to move into whatever's next for me, trusting that it had to be this way because this is how it is.

0:10:58 - (Tori Gordon): And not let. And let go of like, oh, it was going to be some other way or it should be different. It was like a deep moment of acceptance. And the next day, I. I had sent a bunch of texts out to friends just appreciating them for who they'd been to me and their, you know, their role in my life. And I knew my time in Sedona was coming to an end. And three people in 24 hours, like, come to Vegas. Come to Vegas. A friend, a mentor, a friend, and then a friend from Atlanta who's going to visit.

0:11:28 - (Tori Gordon): They were all like, come to Vegas. And I was like, I'm going to take this as a sign I'm supposed to go to Vegas. And I didn't know, you know, how long I would be here. I thought I was going to be here for like, a couple days. I ended up staying. Now I've been here to over two years, and it's just, you know, a reflection of, I think, that trust, that when you trust yourself and when you trust that life really does have your back, that there is something beautiful waiting for you on the other side of the hardship or the adversity that you're going through, then it gives you the courage to do the thing that maybe other people don't fully understand, maybe you don't fully understand.

0:12:06 - (Tori Gordon): But it led me here, and I'm so grateful that it did.

0:12:09 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah. And I love. And I just want to acknowledge you for even being vulnerable enough to share that, because when, you know, now with social media being so openly, readily available for people to have access to healers and facilitators and anyone, you know, practicing reiki, energy work and all of those, you know, more mainstream work. And that's why I love the getting in deeper connections with someone, because before my favorite thing, it's always like, you can't lead someone to where you've never been before.

0:12:36 - (Tawni Nguyen): So if You've never led yourself out of darkness. How do you know what someone else needs? And because now it's becoming a culture where that itself, it's getting monetized for sure. And that's something I'm always hesitant about to. Where people are like, hey, you have to meet this person. They're a spiritual worker and, like, all this fluffy stuff. And I'm like, okay. They're like, yeah, they're like 21 and got a degree in psychology, and they're throwing theories at you and, oh, you need to expose yourself to uncomfortable truth. I'm like, okay. Yeah.

0:13:06 - (Tawni Nguyen): So when getting in touch with people, kind of like in our circle, it's really admiring to know, like, the depth of the work that it actually takes. That's not cute. It's not pretty. It's a lot more awful than we all want to admit. It's a lot.

0:13:20 - (Tori Gordon): Healing is not bubble baths and self care isn't like, you know, pampering yourself like it can be. But, like, asking someone to heal is asking them to revisit the most painful experiences of their life that they've ever been through. And to revisit that with love and with compassion and with tenderness and with. And not to avoid the hard things. And that is messy, you know, and so I wouldn't trust any. Yeah. I personally don't trust people who've never.

0:13:55 - (Tori Gordon): Not that I don't trust them, but I. There's something to knowing that the people that you're working with have gone through their own process of death and rebirth and, you know, wrestling with their own lives and coming to a place of peace and acceptance, and that their transformation is a byproduct of their ability to go into the places that they don't want to go to.

0:14:25 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah. And then, you know, with Dave, like, I know you've done your healing work too, but for girls that, when she brought up, like, building a life that actually feels good, speaking just on a, you know, female side, it's really good for us to. Or a lot easier for us to make it look like we're successful, because as long as you get your hair done, your lashes done, put on your nails, that is just you manifesting or projecting your insecurities through spending a bunch of money to impress other people to try to prove that you look successful.

0:14:52 - (Tawni Nguyen): Right. And a lot of that deeper work, whether it be like, money manifestations or something that is a part of you that has to die.

0:14:58 - (Tori Gordon): Right.

0:14:58 - (Tawni Nguyen): Like, people talk about eagle death and identity death, but it's always replacing, like, Habits with other habits, but it's the same pattern. It's like, okay, just because you stop doing drugs and spending thousands of dollars a month on drinking and drugs, but you're still spending hundreds of dollars a month doing your nails, doing extra makeup, like buying a bunch of stuff that you don't really need and living way above your means when you should really just sit with yourself and understand like, what is all this for?

0:15:24 - (Tawni Nguyen): So I just want to acknowledge like, you know, even for that, like you kind of. We've, we've talked about this before. It's just a lot of people are using spirituality as a bypass to just go into meditation and get way up and get high on their own supply. It's a new spiritual supply that we're bombarded with and then come back down and then they want to get back up again. So it's just a new high they're chasing, right? And it's just they're never really going below and going into the depth of doing the actual work. And it's just ironic we're having this conversation in Vegas because drugs are readily available and every other form of therapy, ketamine, mdma, and everything is so readily available. No one wants to talk about it because it's so taboo and it's so integrated into, you know, the party scene, but not the deep healing scene, which I'm still hesitant to even bring up because it's kind of like, oh, you do drugs, like.

0:16:12 - (Tori Gordon): But I think it's important, you know, for the people who are open. You know, this conversation isn't going to be for everybody but for the people who are ready for an open minded and are looking and searching for something, it's going to be for them. And that's. I agree with you. You know, my phrase that I like to use around all this work is grounded spirituality. You know, I live on planet earth in this 3D reality. I am a fully human being. And yes, I might. I'm a spiritual being in a human body having a human experience and I can't get out of that.

0:16:51 - (Tori Gordon): And so whatever I learn in my spiritual experiences, whether it's with plant medicine or in a therapy session, or with breathwork or with, in meditation or whatever modality I'm looking for. It's how do I bring the insights and the lessons back and integrate them into my life now and how does that change how I live, how I treat myself, how I treat the person at the grocery store if I don't integrate them and my life doesn't change as a Byproduct, then I'm just doing things to look a certain way or to make myself feel. Feel like I am making progress, when actually I'm still repeating the same pattern with a different, you know, box around it. You know, it might not be party and scene, but now it might be shopping, or now it might be even personal development, you know, and we're still trying to fix ourselves, but it's. You know, I like to call it grounded spirituality. When you're able to use those experiences to learn about yourself, and then you actually implement and apply that to your life.

0:17:51 - (Dave Burlin): Well, you've done a phenomenal job in the short period of time that I've known you. I've watched you grow through some just overwhelming challenges. I do want to speak to your experience coming here. I don't know if this was part of your experience at all. I drove a rental car out here one way, right? And it was to come. To go through a divorce. Right. And I was everything that I had hoped for and believed for for years.

0:18:17 - (Dave Burlin): That story changed. But my son was here, and I needed to get closer to him. The resources at the time, because going through separation, divorce. I drove a rental car one way and with everything that I had in it, and. But I was listening to the Alchemist on the way out here, and there was parts of that that just have always been with me because it says, you know, the desert will teach you everything that you need to know about yourself.

0:18:44 - (Dave Burlin): And I've really carried that with me ever since. I don't know if we've talked about the Alchemist and, you know, all the different books and everything, but that was something that. Even the fact that there's a pyramid. I was like, that's kind of funny. But that's been. That's been a whole reality that I've been a part of for me. And in that same thing, I came here, I went through all of the different challenges, and the vices in this place will chew you up and spit you out.

0:19:09 - (Dave Burlin): There was times where I was, like, drinking every day. And, like, I hurt myself one time because I fell, and I just. I didn't take care of myself. And I look back on that now. I've been sober well this whole year. And I just look at this whole city, just. I look at all of life completely differently. And a lot of that has to do with some of the things I've learned from you, the different modalities of how to approach trauma.

0:19:37 - (Dave Burlin): You know, I've had some amazing phone calls. I've attended A lot of your stuff, which I encourage people to go to all the time, but also because of the community that you've built and the time that we've spent, I feel like I've gotten a little bit extra. So can you talk a little bit about the community and how that's evolved and what. Because again, you were just hoping you could find a place where you could walk into a room and hug people, and people cared or gave a damn, but you've built so much more than that.

0:20:07 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah, I appreciate that. And I love the Alchemist. One of my favorite quotes is, like, the universe is always conspiring in your favor, you know, And I believe that to be true. That's the way I try to view life is like, life is either against me or it's for me. And I choose to believe that it's for me. And, you know, like you said, I was looking for, I had built a predominant, like, prominent audience online.

0:20:35 - (Tori Gordon): I started my business and started coaching and doing all this stuff in 2019. And everything I had built under the personal brand at that point and through the podcast had been on TikTok and Instagram. And so I had a great community and I had fellow colleagues and friends and people that I connected with on this stuff, but they were spread out all throughout the world, you know, and I was. I was ready for people to do life with. I was ready to be able to have meals together and do, you know, all the things.

0:21:02 - (Tori Gordon): And last year, you know, like many people, I spent the first year out here kind of getting a little lost in the. I was like, oh, let me, you know, play and experience all that life, you know, in Vegas has to offer. And there was value in that. And then I got to the point I was like, all right, I need to get focused again. Because I had been in a. I was just. I was maintaining the success that I had built up until that point, but I wasn't creating anything new.

0:21:29 - (Tori Gordon): So last year, like, I tend to do, I am pretty spontaneous, and oftentimes we'll do things on my own, like travel, cross country. I decided to go to Burning man for the first time alone. And that was so eye opening, because if you've ever been to Blackrock City, if you've ever been to Burning man, if you haven't, it's one of the most creative, liberating experiences you can have because there is a sense of freedom to explore and to try new things and to live out, you know, a version of you that you might.

0:22:07 - (Tori Gordon): Might not fit into the regular Box of your life, right? And I went with a camp that I went alone. I went with a camp, but I didn't know anybody. And there were other facilitators and healers and people in the space, coaches and teachers. And I left that experience feeling so integrated and part of something, even though I came in knowing not a soul. And, you know, I call Burning man like the ayahuasca of experiences because it really requires all of you to show up. It will test you in so many different ways.

0:22:42 - (Tori Gordon): And I came, you know, because of the way that camp was led by the leaders. I felt part of something, and I came home and I had this epiphany, you know, it's like I'm tired of waiting for someone else to invite me into their community. And I was like, if this is something I desire and I dream about and I want, then it's up to me to create it. And so I came back and I put basically everyone I had met at that point in Vegas in a big WhatsApp group chat.

0:23:13 - (Tori Gordon): And I said, look, this is what I want to create. I 1 I'm tired of hear hearing people say, vegas doesn't feel like home. Why? Whose fault is that? It's our fault. Let's. You know, you were talking about setting roots here.

0:23:29 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah.

0:23:29 - (Tori Gordon): Building roots here. And I'm like, let's make it feel like home. Like, there are so many things to do in this city. No one should ever have an excuse that they don't have someone to go with or they can't go because they're going alone. So, like, first of all, it was a social thing initially about, hey, these are the festivals, or these are the things that I'm gonna go, go to. If you guys wanna go, let's get a group and go. And my three rules.

0:23:52 - (Tori Gordon): Initially, I was like, look, if you don't wanna be a part of a group chat, totally fine. Not personal. Just leave. You know what I mean? It's all good. But what I want to create is a group of people where we do life together. And the rules are, have fun, no drama, be inclusive. That's how it started. And I did a meetup, and a bunch of people came. And then we went to Life is Beautiful last year, and we had a great crew. And one of the girls, you know, we're all having the best time. She comes up and she's like, are you a sheep or a wolf?

0:24:29 - (Tori Gordon): I'm a wolf. She's all night. She's, like, going to each little person who's a Sheep or a wolf, like secretly. And then she's like, hey guys, we're all wolves. We're the wolf pack. And it just like was this organic, like, not planned thing that was silly and fun. And then it felt like, oh my God, we're all like, we're part of something. And it was like, what is happening? Like, we. Yeah, this feels really good. And so we then named the group the Wolf Pack. And we just started bringing in people that were good, high vibe, good quality people doing things in the city.

0:25:01 - (Tori Gordon): And it grew to like 100 something people, like really, really quickly. And we started gathering and going to places and celebrating birthdays and having dinner and. And doing all the things. And then I went through the hardest thing I've ever been through at the beginning of January. And I haven't yet publicly talked about that experience, but. And I plan to, I will. It's just not for many reasons. It's not the right time.

0:25:35 - (Tori Gordon): But I'll say, outside of, you know, losing my family and a lot like one of the hardest things I've ever been through. And I called on some of the women that were in this group to support me in that process. And I was like, if I'm going to, you know, really lean into this and this is really going to be what I want it to be, then it's not. This isn't just a group for when times are good, this is also a group for when times are not.

0:26:03 - (Tori Gordon): And so I called on those women and they held me in ceremony and they held me through this process and they showed me through that that they were ready to show up for more than just a good time. And that showed me one that if I was going to lead anything, I had to go first and lean into my own vulnerability and ask for what I needed and ask for support and allow myself to receive that. And what that process showed me is that there is no part of me that is really unlovable.

0:26:37 - (Tori Gordon): Like even the most shameful, embarrassing, hard, dark parts of myself. Like, there are people who will love that too. And that gave that process. Plus then sitting in a ayahuasca ceremony, I came, brought me back to life, essentially. It was, I was like this revival of my spiritual spirit, of my soul, of what I like, my voice that had been kind of silenced for a little while. And I was like, I'm back in the driver's seat of my life again. Like, I'm not a victim. And so when I met you actually was right on the heels. I was like, in March or no it was actually in May, I think, when we did the first Revive Las Vegas big event. But in March, I started hosting stuff again, I started speaking again because I had gone to the depths and been reborn again and I had something to share.

0:27:33 - (Tori Gordon): Finally. I was. That felt authentic, that felt true, that wasn't contrived in me trying to say the right thing, you know, because I'm supposed to be this motivational inspirational speaker. It was like, no, I'm not going to speak until I have something to say. And that is true for me. And yeah. So in March, I started running Revive Psychedelic breathwork events. And I've been doing that every single month. And then we launched Revive Las Vegas, which is now our conscious heart led community of people who are really committed to their own self mastery and spiritual evolution and journey.

0:28:15 - (Tori Gordon): And it's evolved from there. And now we've got an incredible community. So what was Wolf Pack, which is friends and you know, people doing big stuff in the city, was one piece of that community. And now Revive Las Vegas is, you know, becoming this hub for healing in Las Vegas, where we're really here to show that there's so much more than to Sin City than, you know, strip life, that this can also be a hub for a lot of light, you know, everywhere.

0:28:48 - (Tori Gordon): You know, to the degree that there's darkness in this city, there's a lot of light too.

0:28:52 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah. Law of polarity. Yeah, That's a lot of times how people meet, it's like either at your worst, it's when you find your true friends, because people want to talk about keeping the circle small and all that stuff, but I learned recently, it's like you may have a small circle, but like who's really in your corner. It's like when you're at your corner, like when your back is against the wall, when you're at like your worst, that you don't even want to accept yourself. Who are those people?

0:29:15 - (Tawni Nguyen): Does actually like steps in, picks you up.

0:29:18 - (Tori Gordon): Well, I mean, statistics show that most people do not have meaningful connection in their life, that we are in a loneliness epidemic in this country. People are disconnected from themselves and the people in their lives. And I want to shift that narrative, but that can only shift culturally and within the collective if it starts to happen on an end of individual basis. And that's what I'm committed to, is to freeing myself from the limiting beliefs and constructs that tell me I'm separate and allowing myself to connect to myself and then creating a culture within my community.

0:29:58 - (Tori Gordon): That's like what we're going to be known for is our love, how we love each other. That is what I want revive to be known for is how we take care of each other. Not for how many people get in the room, not for how much, how many ticket sales. I could care less about that. I want to. The culture of something is how does it make you feel to be part of it? And that's what I want to create. And that starts on an individual in the privacy of every individual's own heart.

0:30:26 - (Dave Burlin): I want to speak to that because I had. Well, we'll just say I had an experience this last weekend where I went through some transformation, some transformational experiences. And everything that you just said. I've never said this out loud before. I've been a part. I've been a part of communities. I've been a part of tribes, one of the most tribal organizations on the planet as a Marine. And I've never made the comparison before, but there was a point where, because I've been. I've been with Wolfpack since day one.

0:31:01 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah.

0:31:02 - (Dave Burlin): And there's times like when you talk about it still kills me, but I love all of you for it. I wasn't able to go to a lot of the events and a lot of the shows in the early days because I was still working as a wedding DJ. My weekends have been busy from 2010 until just like, November of last year. I just started getting weekends back as I stepped back from the wedding DJ stuff. But there were so many times where I felt such an unconditional love. All my family's gone, too. I've lost all my family.

0:31:36 - (Dave Burlin): I moved out here for my son. And that's pretty much the extent of my actual core family that I have. And with that, it's been really powerful to be a part of your community. But also, there was a point where it was so overwhelming. I was like, this can't be real.

0:31:51 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah.

0:31:52 - (Dave Burlin): Like, I literally. I was like, I don't know. This seems a little. And it wasn't. There was nothing that was malicious about it. There was nothing even suspect. It was just. I don't know that that's something that really exists. And time and time again, you and so many other people in the group have proved otherwise. And I'm so grateful for that because when you look at the caliber of people that are through that whole network and what we're all doing and what we're all connected to, like, we need that.

0:32:26 - (Dave Burlin): We need that because a lot of us are the. For some of us, like you and Me, We've lost most of our family, but for some of us that haven't, we're the black sheep in our family. But this is a place where we can be safe. And not only be safe, but grow. So thank you.

0:32:44 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah. I want to raise the standard for how good it can get, you know, like, that we don't always have to struggle alone. That it does. We don't have to expect the worst all the time. That, you know, that our past doesn't have to be our future. You know, just because we haven't experienced that in the past doesn't mean that that's not possible. And although it might be unfamiliar to show up in a place and be like, wait, these people, like, love each other. And like, this has to be a cult.

0:33:23 - (Tawni Nguyen): Or this has to be like some hippie dippy machine.

0:33:26 - (Tori Gordon): What are they on? You know what I mean? And it's like, we're like, nothing. It's about getting in touch with, like, letting go of all of the things that tell us, like, you don't belong here. All the things are like, no, that's. That's for other people, but not for you. You know what I mean? Or we live in a culture where we're not used to seeing people gather for. Just to gather, to be with each other. We're used to seeing people gather for inebriation and holidays.

0:33:58 - (Dave Burlin): Yeah.

0:33:58 - (Tori Gordon): For violence, for protests. Like, when do people get together just to gather, to commune, to share, to like, celebrate, you know, and that can be really jarring if you've never experienced it, you know, and we're like, what's the catch? Or what's the. When's the other shoe gonna drop? Or like, oh, this is this. You know, there's got to be something to this. And, you know, all we can do is just keep showing up and keep showing that this is like, this is real.

0:34:30 - (Tori Gordon): Because I get it. The hesitancy for people. Because if you've never experienced it, you're like, this is unfamiliar. And most of our brains attribute that to feeling unsafe.

0:34:41 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah, Yeah, I can attest to that because I really connected when you said, like, you moved out here in the midst of, like, leaving another relationship. And for anyone that's been in a relationship that wasn't going anywhere, and I don't know, let's just say long term, three plus five plus seven plus years. Like, I was in a seven year relationship, moved out here, and I wish I had community, but that was kind of like the end of my edge. That was my rock bottom. Right. So for all of us, it feels like we've all hit rock bottom at some point in the last five years, unrelated to Covid, But I think it's just a part of us that just hated the way we were living so much that we just needed connection. And of course, like, I'm gonna throw that out there. Like, as you know, this town is full of transactional people. And I'm not saying everyone is transactional, but of course, like, there's always hesitation to where. When you meet people that are also entrepreneurs, that are also creators, that are also lifestyle entrepreneurs. Air quote.

0:35:33 - (Tawni Nguyen): What do you want from me? What are you selling me? Am I in your funnel? Like, click this to get this. I want your data. I want, I want, I want. Right? But at the end of the day, like, for me, that's why I'm open to, like, have conversations around this. It's like, when enough of your friends have service and products and a part of you that if you haven't done the healing work. For me especially, it's the overspending, because I really just want to help people. And for me, that was through money, because that's the only way I can quantify my worth.

0:35:59 - (Tawni Nguyen): And for me, I had to really look deeply into that and put myself on, like, a financial fast to really understand, like, would they still like me if, like, none of this existed? Right? Like, equate that to dollar amount. Equate that to generosity in time, in service, in kindness. But I'm like, that's not kindness. That's just me being selfish because I'm controlling the outcome. I'm not paying for friends or whatever.

0:36:23 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah, I'm paying for friends. I'm manipulating the outcome because as long as I'm paying, they would love me. Because you're buying love, and that's why it feels transactional. But it comes back to me taking a look at myself and holding up that mirror and looking at all the people. That is all the lessons that's given me. Different body, same cycle. Because that's the same exact lesson that I've been handed over and over and over again. So if you put yourself into a situation to where, for me, it's like, I never want to take up space or be a burden or I'm so anxious around that. Right?

0:36:54 - (Tawni Nguyen): Because as long as you exude confidence as a woman, you walk in, you're outgoing, you're networking, you're shaking hands, but you're not hiding the insecurity of, like, a really scared little girl, because we all have that within us. And this community, you don't want to walk around and, you know, tell people all of your fears because again, with being transactional. Like, you always think someone's going to blackmail you or use that against you.

0:37:16 - (Tawni Nguyen): And I'm always on that side of like, like, like, number one, trust issues, commitment issues, intimacy issues. Like, you know, I'm notorious for all of that. But you. We hide it well with money. We hide it well with external success, but you're not really in harmony of anything because you're not creating. So when I love that when you said that, it's like you're not really abundant. You're still acting out of scarcity, even though you're spending a lot more money.

0:37:39 - (Tawni Nguyen): You're just doing things for people, you know, not expecting anything. And once you detach from that, then you realize, like, oh, damn, I'm. I'm lonely. No one cares about me. And I'm also by myself. We come into this world alone and we leave alone, you know, so sometimes, like, when you sit with that, you're like, oh, fuck, like, what now? You know, I think it's an important.

0:38:00 - (Tori Gordon): Conversation, you know, around, what does success really mean? Because it's like, what does it mean to be wealthy if you're only rich in one area?

0:38:13 - (Tawni Nguyen): Mm.

0:38:14 - (Tori Gordon): I know a lot of people who have a lot of money in this city and they are addicted, they're sick, they're depressed. They don't have people in their lives that really know them. They have people in their lives that are using them. You know, their kids won't talk to them. Like, is that being rich in life? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they might have a lot of money, but, like, I want to. For me, it's like my definition. I've had to really look at, like, what does it mean to be a successful Successful?

0:38:46 - (Tori Gordon): And it didn't feel successful when my life looked good, but I knew I was living a double life. You know what I mean? That doesn't. That's not success.

0:38:56 - (Tawni Nguyen): Shots of the heart.

0:38:57 - (Tori Gordon): So for me, it's about living an integrated life, a life that. Where my insides match my outsides. And that doesn't mean, you know, that I don't pursue things and that I'm not committed to, you know, growth or making money or whatever. Like, the more money I make, the more people I can impact, the more I can do it's. But, like, I think it's. We've got to take the money off the pedestal and be. Because this whole question around worth. It's like, who Are you? When all that's taken away, if we do go through another Covid and you can't. You know what I mean?

0:39:33 - (Tori Gordon): Like, people learned a lot about themselves and how much they propped their identity up on their titles. You know, it's like, who are you without your titles? Who are you without all of that? Do you like yourself? Can you look yourself in the mirror? Can you spend time alone? A lot of people can't, you know? So for me, the journey is coming back to being in right relationship with myself, where I'm not running from myself, and then using all these other things as a distraction so that I don't have to face the truth of how I'm actually feeling.

0:40:09 - (Tori Gordon): Right? And when I can start to do that, then I start to become an integrated whole being versus I'm trying to fill this part of me with money or with fame or with this or with that because I don't like who I am or because I don't feel worthy. And I'm all. And we have this idea, like, I'm only worthy if I perform for me. I was like, I was a high performer my whole life. I was the MVP of a lot of all my sports teams. I was honors kid. I learned real young that it felt good when people clapped and applauded. It's all external, but that's the whole game. It's like our senses are pointed outward. We're all taught to look outside of ourselves for the answer and what I want and my hope is and things sort of shift in my life.

0:41:00 - (Tori Gordon): But what we do at Revive is where we take that and we start to turn it in and we start to look inside for the answer or for the thing that we're looking for. Like, I really believe we are what we're looking for. We're just looking in the wrong places. Like we're looking to the relationship or the money or the career or the thing to fix us versus can I go inside my own heart and sit with the reality of how I'm feeling and then move through that?

0:41:29 - (Tori Gordon): And the deeper I connect with myself, the more I know myself and the more I know myself, the less other people's opinions matter.

0:41:40 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah. This has been a really awakening and eye opening session just because, you know, that's what we kind of want to highlight too. Because not everyone that hangs out with you wants to just drink or party with you here in Vegas. Like, we have a lot of depth and intimacy and where capitalism and where Vegas is going. Especially, like, I love talking about this. Conversations that we Ourselves have to be conscious, and we have to become conscious leaders. And not to tell others how to be conscious, but hopefully that awakens something within them that holds up a mirror. Like, whatever triggers, like, let anything either of us say, like, if it triggers any part of anyone identity, like, we welcome you to use that as an invitation to look at that part of you. And that's kind of what we're here for, is not here's what you should do with your life, but it's like, hey, like, we're working on becoming conscious leader.

0:42:32 - (Tawni Nguyen): And in this capitalistic world, like, I want to earn my way, right? But right, like, not with that righteousness, but like, rightfully just to becoming someone that can achieve and win this capitalism, you know, war, but not with myself, because that's. That's like a really high price to pay. And you. You nailed it. You know, a lot of people are paying that price because they don't. They don't love themselves. They are not acceptance of themselves. There's no radical change until, you know, your personality doesn't change until you change your personal reality. And a lot of people can't face that because they're still running. They're still running. I ran here, like, I use Vegas as a way to run away from all of my issues in Orange county just to be hit with a wall with COVID with not understanding. Like, wow, I can't even be in a room with the person I'm supposed to be in a relationship with. Like, I don't know this person. Because we've been running and we're so busy, and we're chasing external things, and our calendar is, like, always full, and it's busy, busy, busy, busy. Produce, produce, produce. Make money, you know, and that's something to where slowing down really shows you who you are.

0:43:34 - (Tori Gordon): Well, wherever you go, there you are. Yeah, you take it with you. You can't run. You don't leave your problems in the last city, unfortunately.

0:43:42 - (Dave Burlin): Well, it's been fun because I've. There's been times where I wanted to run away from the city. Right. There's been so many impactful things that I've been trying to build in the different communities with veteran stuff, entrepreneur stuff, all the things we're doing, Global Entrepreneurship Week, there's been challenges on every one of those, and so many of those things aren't selfish for me. I saw something that I felt called to act on, and sometimes it's so frustrating when people can be so against it. It's like, okay, I'll just go do it somewhere where people do want to do this.

0:44:18 - (Dave Burlin): But then part of. Especially what I learned in the experience this last weekend is sometimes you just have to sit with that and sit through it, and then you realize that there's no help coming. But it doesn't mean that you haven't ever felt loved. Right? That's the overwhelming experience for me, is that by being part of the group, by just all the experience, like, there has been so many places I've been, so many people that have cared, and so many times I was running from that because I always felt like it was all going to be over at some point, and when's the other shoe going to drop?

0:44:57 - (Dave Burlin): And then like. But to your point, like, what if it just doesn't? Like, I. It's funny because I brought this up in the green room before the show. One of the first episodes that I watched that you did was with Carissa Johnson, and you asked her, what do you think is the biggest lie in this kind of healing world? And she said that it has to be hard. Like, and I was. That just killed me when I say it killed me. It just brought me to life because I was like, it doesn't have to be hard.

0:45:28 - (Dave Burlin): Like, but we. I was taught, like, work hard, right? And it's like, it has to be hard. That's how we. That's how we have worth. And just that simple concept of, what if it doesn't have to be hard? What if you don't have to get to this and then you're happy? What if you just are happy and then all of the things start to happen after that? So I've taken that and I've watched that clip a thousand times. I've shared it with hundreds of people.

0:45:55 - (Dave Burlin): My question for you in all of the work that you've done is the same question. What do you feel is the biggest lie in that whole space of healing truth? And where do people get it wrong?

0:46:12 - (Tori Gordon): Wow, great question.

0:46:15 - (Dave Burlin): Your question?

0:46:16 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah, there's several, you know, but I think we just touched on one of them, which is like, when I. When I. That my suffering is based on my circumstance. That, like, when I get everything to be exactly the way I want it to be, then I'll be happy, right? Like, that we think, and we all have this programming built into us, which is a victim mentality. It's like, that my relationship is what's causing me pain, or it's my boss that's causing me pain, or it's my weight that's causing. It's my circumstance. And when I can perfect my circumstance or heal myself enough, or fix myself, then I will have figured it out.

0:47:10 - (Tori Gordon): But. And that leads to a hyper vigilant need to control everything and ultimately to try and be God right where it's like it shouldn't be. This. I need to fix this. I need to change this. I need to, to work on this part of me. It's like for me, it's like there's nothing I need to do actually. I need to be with myself. I need to like. We're so focused externally that we think that our pain comes from the fact that things aren't the way we want them to be.

0:47:48 - (Tori Gordon): And when we can get out of the idea that we are a victim to that circumstance and we. It's really the only problem that we have is the problem in our thinking about our circumstance. It's all a matter of perspective and when we can understand. It's like if I take the mentality that everything is exactly how it's supposed to be, that because me saying it should be any other way, I should be different.

0:48:16 - (Tori Gordon): I should be more like you. I should be doing what you're doing. Oh, he should never have left me. This, My mom should have never died and gotten cancer. This shouldn't be this way. I need to fix this. I need to change. This is like me saying the sun should be in that side of the sky. Like I know best, I know how things should be. And I'm not saying things are ideal, that you're not going through something hard, that it's exactly the way you want it. But I would assert that, and I've learned this from my teacher Peter Cron, is like, things are the way they are.

0:48:49 - (Tori Gordon): And if you can accept that, then you won't be in resistance and fighting life. And most people, they want peace, but they're at war in their mind. And where you are in resistance to the way things are is where you are at war with yourself. So can I be okay with. Can I be with what is? Can I let it be the way it is? Versus I need to fix it, I need to change it. Because in the energy of being with it, I.

0:49:20 - (Tori Gordon): I allow it. And then it can change versus what I resist, I persist. It keeps coming back. It keeps coming back. And so part of it is just an energy of like total acceptance. And that doesn't mean I'm not committed to making growth and to making strides and to getting better. But I'm not in resistance to life and I'm not fighting with life and that when I start to get that, that what happened. This is Peter Cron quote, what happened, happened.

0:49:54 - (Tori Gordon): And it couldn't have happened any other way, because it didn't. Then I can stop living in the past and thinking it should have. I could have changed something. If I could have, I would have, and I did. I'm here. And if I can be okay with being here, then I won't bring my past into my present and then create it in my future, Right? So it's about finding acceptance for yourself and where you are and letting it be okay and realizing that there's like, if I believe that there's a God or a universe or if life is on my side, right, Life has my back, then there's nothing really wrong, Right. That I am actually I can relax a little bit.

0:50:37 - (Tori Gordon): I can take a deep breath. And if I can relax, I can be a little bit more open. And if I can be a little bit more open, what can come into my life that I could. That I couldn't receive? Because I had all this resistance before. I think that's. That's one of them. There are many, but I think that's one that has really helped me, is how much am I in resistance to the way things are and how can I find acceptance for it?

0:51:05 - (Dave Burlin): Well, that. Thank you for that. Seriously. And that dovetails into that. Resistance is what separates you from. I was going to go two directions with that because another book that we share in common is a return to love. We are pure love. It's the resistance in between what we fall into and what we believe into that pulls us away from our true. Our true self. And David, I had asked him a question. David Meltzer, mutual friend of the show we, you know, I asked him something about rejection and ego and things like that. And he said, well, yeah, you can spend as much time as you want in that space and it's only holding you from your full potential. And that. That true self of who you are.

0:51:51 - (Tori Gordon): So that's not who you are. We're just so committed to this idea of ourselves. And I really think, like, the healing work is not about learning another lie. It's not about learning something. It's about unlearning all of the bullshit of who the lies that I'm not good enough. I'm not worthy. I'm not going to be okay. And remembering, oh, I am part of the whole. We all come from the same source. I can never be disconnected from that.

0:52:25 - (Tori Gordon): I am not an ocean in the drop. I am a drop in the Ocean. I am the ocean in a drop. I am localized divinity. And when I believe that anything is possible and I'm not, I don't live in fear. You know, fear comes from the small self that thinks we're separate from that. And I think the healing journey is about remembering more than it is about learning.

0:52:49 - (Dave Burlin): Tori, that beautiful and amazing and so true. You have done the work and not every single person that attends one of your events is going to experience all of that in one session or one event. But in my opinion, they're going to get pretty damn close. And if they really allow themselves the opportunity to step in and show up, they could probably take a bigger step further than they might have ever taken.

0:53:18 - (Dave Burlin): So can you talk just a little bit about what's evolved now into the breathwork experiences and the things that you have that are coming down the line here in the next several months as we get towards the end of the year?

0:53:34 - (Tori Gordon): For sure. So, yeah, Breathwork is one thing that we're offering and kind of has been our flagship kind of class that we launched Revive, with which we run right now. Once a month, we might go to twice a month. My big vision is I want to have my own studio. I'm looking for somebody who's interested in investing and helping us get our own space because to be able to host these things on a regular recurring basis and give people a place that they can feel and come home to themselves is so important. So right now we're doing once a month Breathwork. We have one coming up this weekend where we explore different topics and it's a place where people can come and release and let go of the internal baggage they've been holding onto.

0:54:14 - (Tori Gordon): I also run a women's program called Revive Women, which is a community of heart led, purpose driven women that want to do this work together. We meet every single week and then we are implementing in person work. And it's just another way to get really tight knit and do life with each other. It's a membership style community. It's 97 bucks a month. You can cancel anytime. But the people who've been in that are, you know, there are women who've been in there from the beginning when I started it under a different name years ago. And we're.

0:54:47 - (Tori Gordon): This is like, this is who we do. Who do I do this work with? It's like, oh, I'm. Most people are doing all this in isolation at home. Maybe they're in their journal, you know, asking themselves some questions. But that's a place that women can come. We're bringing, potentially bringing a men's group in for Revive Men. And then what I'm going to be doing is weekly or not weekly, monthly workshops around different topics like shame, like nervous system regulation, like emotional how to master your emotions and what emotional hygiene looks like, how to release stuck emotion. So every single month, I'm going to be offering a workshop that then the community can participate in, if you're interested in doing that.

0:55:34 - (Tori Gordon): And then I run something that is called sanctuary, which is a ceremonial experience for people to truly come walk through. What I call is like this doorway to the self where we use different modalities within sanctuary to help people have an experience, have an experience where they meet themselves. That happens. I do that in a group setting once a month as well. We also run privates for that. And that is some of the most transformational work we offer because that is the place where you are able to come face to face with the truth of who you are and remember.

0:56:20 - (Tori Gordon): And so all of the things that we're doing, whether it's the monthly workshops, sanctuary ceremonies, breathwork, or Revive Women, we're just trying to give the, you know, the community a place to get integrated and to feel like they are a part of something and where they feel like they can, you know, find the safety to go within themselves and look for those answers that are only inside. So that's what we've got coming up. And then we got free, free stuff that we do every single month, too. We got potluck dinners and park gatherings. And so if you go to the Revive Las Vegas Instagram page, there is a link in our bio that has all of our upcoming events. And we're getting really excited, really close to launching our website. So it will be revivelosvegas.com

0:57:10 - (Tori Gordon): I love that. Yeah.

0:57:11 - (Tawni Nguyen): Thank you so much for showing up and showing us what, like, you acknowledging your darkness actually looks like outside of the things we see on Instagram. Because honestly, right. Like anyone that would. The first thing they would look at is like, how is this person portrayed on their social media? So we just really want to appreciate your time and like, really just showing us what the conversation can be like outside of just doing business and entrepreneurship and, you know, you know what I mean?

0:57:38 - (Tori Gordon): I love conversations like this. So this is. This is exciting for me.

0:57:42 - (Dave Burlin): It's funny because you mentioned a lot of things. You mentioned the. Just eating food with people is one of the most intimate things for me. But, like, how many. How many people have we helped move? Oh, my gosh, like, in Like a day, like six or seven different people. It's like, I need help moving. And it's like, bam, the whole pack is there, and it's in a couple of hours. Like, something that can be a very painful expansion.

0:58:07 - (Dave Burlin): Right. Transformation. And it's just, like, right there to show up.

0:58:10 - (Tawni Nguyen): So that's a true test of friendship, if someone is actually going to help you move or actually pick up your phone call. Because in this town, everyone likes to let calls go.

0:58:19 - (Dave Burlin): Yeah. It's like, oh, I saw your social media. Somebody was posting, they were about to move, and now you're trying to call me.

0:58:24 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah.

0:58:25 - (Tawni Nguyen): That's also success, too. Just definitively in the relationship realm. It's like, is there a person in this town you can actually just call just because. And they'll actually pick up and want to know what you're up to?

0:58:34 - (Tori Gordon): Absolutely.

0:58:35 - (Tawni Nguyen): What you have to say outside of, like, oh, I need something from you, or they probably want money or something like that, or pitching me a product or pitch me a service or some sort of thing.

0:58:43 - (Tori Gordon): You know, the fact that that's what you expect from people.

0:58:46 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah.

0:58:47 - (Tori Gordon): Like, I would have said that that was kind of what I would have expected at a different part in my life because of the community we've cultivated. That's not the standard anymore. And so it's like, that gets to shift. And I am proud of that, that, you know, we're creating an environment and a culture that it's. It's not. You know what? This community is not about me. The community is everybody that continues to show up and we hold the standard of, this is how we care.

0:59:19 - (Tori Gordon): This is how we care about each other. It's cool to care. I want to make that a thing, you know, where we are in a society where it's like, oh, let me not catch feelings and let me listen.

0:59:30 - (Tawni Nguyen): It's like, catch all the feelings.

0:59:33 - (Tori Gordon): Dare to give a damn about something.

0:59:36 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah.

0:59:36 - (Tori Gordon): You know, tell me about what your heart longs for. Tell me about what lights you up like a Christmas tree. I want to know. And most people. You know what I mean? Like, that they don't know.

0:59:47 - (Tawni Nguyen): They don't know.

0:59:47 - (Tori Gordon): So my whole thing is I want to create spaces for people to get to know if they don't. Because that was me, you know, that certainly was me. And it doesn't have to be the future if you don't want it to be.

0:59:59 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah.

1:00:00 - (Dave Burlin): So final question. If you could give one piece of advice to somebody who's here in Las Vegas or beyond, who is going through that challenge or that transformation or that expansion in their life, What. What advice would you give to them?

1:00:31 - (Tori Gordon): I guess I would say, you know, create some space in your life, in your day, to sit still and to go within your own heart. Whether you breathe, whether you meditate, just. And ask yourself, what does my heart long for? What do I long for? And give yourself the permission to pursue that, like, genuinely. Because you might not think everybody you're surrounded by might not want what you want, but that is not an indicator that there aren't people that want this same thing you do.

1:01:22 - (Tori Gordon): You just might not be in the right place. But if you don't have the courage to ask yourself, what do I really want? Like, really want, you'll never have it. You'll never have it. And you'll always be settling for what life just puts in front of you. You'll just be following the person in front of you. You know, I have this saying with, like, if life was like a gps, I have to put a destination in to get the directions right.

1:01:55 - (Tori Gordon): And we think even if we do create space to be honest. Maybe you're honest. What do I want? Is that I don't want this relationship anymore. Right? Maybe the honest what I want is like, I want to pursue something I never pursued before. A lot of people's want starts with acknowledgement of what they don't want. But if you don't have a goal or a vision or a direction, then how can life prompt you to what direction to take? And I think a lot of people are in their proverbial car, and they're either sitting still, they're on a fence, they're literally straddling a fence because they can't make a decision, and so they're not going anywhere, or they're aimlessly following the person in front of them, their friend, their boyfriend, and they're just doing whatever they're doing because that's what they're doing.

1:02:49 - (Tori Gordon): Because they haven't taken the time to sit with themselves and ask, what am I? Are they even going in the direction I want to be going in? Because they're going to end up somewhere, and you're going to be like, how did I get here? How did I end up here? Well, I was just following my boyfriend, or I was just following my friends, and that was me. And so if you have the courage to really ask yourself that and give yourself permission, because you are the only one who can give yourself permission to actually go for it, I think you're headed in a direction that will support you throughout your life, but you have to be willing to have the courage to ask that question.

1:03:29 - (Dave Burlin): I love that.

1:03:30 - (Tawni Nguyen): Yeah. So thank you so much for just allowing us to feel so seen and so heard in this conversation and, you know, just doing something and creating something much bigger than yourself. So that's kind of like, you know, I'm, like, feeling all the feels right now, and I think that's how you're supposed to live is not just dead inside all the time.

1:03:51 - (Tori Gordon): There's so much, like, beauty in life.

1:03:53 - (Tawni Nguyen): Like, I have feelings and you have feelings.

1:03:56 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah. It's like how most of us just aren't that present to our lives. You know, we're on to the next thing. And so it's important to me, wherever I go, to just be here and see what magic comes out of the, you know, the moment that's right here in front of me. So thank you for creating the space and letting us have a really dope conversation. I appreciate it.

1:04:18 - (Dave Burlin): Thank you for saying yes. All right, that is a wrap.

1:04:25 - (Tawni Nguyen): Thank you for tuning in with us today and hopefully sitting in your space and really attending to really mindful conversations. We don't get this opportunity a lot, especially here, so we hope that we created a space for you to just tune into a different kind of energy. So if you like what you heard, please, like, subscribe, share with us what you liked. If something helped you along the way, how we can be of resource for you, who we can connect you with here in this town or anything.

1:04:52 - (Tawni Nguyen): If you need a friend, you know, where can people find you? Is on Instagram.

1:04:56 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah, it's the Tori Gordon and revive Las Vegas on Instagram.

1:05:01 - (Tawni Nguyen): And with us is Tawnisaurus on Instagram and DaveBurlin on Instagram as well. And Pursue Vegas. Did I get that right?

1:05:08 - (Dave Burlin): You nailed it.

1:05:10 - (Tori Gordon): Yeah.